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Traveller-digest     Tuesday, December 14 1999     Volume 1999 : Number 1494<BR>
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(R)1996. Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.<BR>
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The following topics are covered in this digest:<BR>
<BR>
Re: Munchkins<BR>
that crate in Leonard's ship<BR>
Re: Munchkins<BR>
Re: My new SF miniatures site is up!<BR>
Photosynthesis and alien ecology<BR>
weapons and CRs<BR>
Re: technology advances<BR>
Re: Handouts<BR>
chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
Planet Las Vegas<BR>
Re: Convention Alert!!!<BR>
Re: Full auto Pilgramage Pics...and DITZIE?!?!<BR>
RE: chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Australia - Orbital badness<BR>
RE: Paintball and morality<BR>
RE: chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
Dueling Banjos in the 3I<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:13:07 -0800<BR>
From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella" <xrp@sierratel.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Munchkins<BR>
<BR>
Via electronic medium on 12/11/99 8:12 PM, meow@advancenet.net wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> then theres the misguided Hiver archaeologist who when examining<BR>
> the wreckage of a RoM ship, found a copy of the necronomicon<BR>
> and a Macarena video. after thorough study he determined the video<BR>
> was some kind of summoning ritual.<BR>
<BR>
It isn't?<BR>
;)<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:10:02 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: that crate in Leonard's ship<BR>
<BR>
Leonard had a wild idea:<BR>
>>The PCs have found an *old* Solomani ship, say from<BR>
the period of the<BR>
original wars with the Ziru Sirka. It's obviously<BR>
intended as a *fast*<BR>
secure courier. The crew is dead (some accident). And<BR>
there's this old<BR>
(at least a century older than the ship) wooden crate<BR>
in the hold. <BR>
<BR>
It's got something stenciled on it in what may be an<BR>
old version of<BR>
Galanglic. It's rather cryptic.<BR>
<BR>
                TOP SECRET<BR>
                ARMY INTELLIGENCE<BR>
                9900xxxxxxxx>>><BR>
<BR>
<GURPS plug> For those who don't know, that warehouse<BR>
in the last scene of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was<BR>
"Warehouse 23", and if you ever wondered what _pther_<BR>
stuff was in there... ask Steve Jackson, at<BR>
www.warehouse23.com/basement/<BR>
then you can have heaps of fun with mysterious crates.<BR>
Have your PCs ever contracted to freight some gear,<BR>
they weren't told what it was, and weren't to open it?<BR>
Ah, the long moments while they ponder the relative<BR>
value of cash and curiousity...<BR>
</GURPS plug><BR>
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=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
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Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:30:02 -0500<BR>
From: "David L. Pulver" <dlpulver@kos.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Munchkins<BR>
<BR>
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:10:28 -0800<BR>
>From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella" <xrp@sierratel.com><BR>
>Subject: Re: Munchkins<BR>
><BR>
>Via electronic medium on 12/11/99 7:58 PM, dlpulver@kos.net wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>> Poul Anderson elves<BR>
><BR>
>Uh, I'm drawing a blank here, and I am supposed to be fully versed in this<BR>
>stuff. Would you mind refreashing my memory lest my my WWW search proves<BR>
>unfruitful?<BR>
<BR>
The appropriate references for Poul Anderson elves are the novels THE<BR>
BROKEN SWORD and THREE HEARTS AND THREE LIONS (both from Anderson's early<BR>
period, written in the 50s and 60s).  They were described memorably in<BR>
Alarums and Excursions once as "Bastards, but competant bastards."<BR>
Generally speaking, they were immortal, souless, good fighters and wizards,<BR>
lecherous and invisible to humans, hated trolls, enslaved dwarves, but<BR>
could not abide cold iron.  <BR>
<BR>
obTrav, the GURPS Trav espionage and nobles books should probably present a<BR>
feel similar to Anderson's Flandry novels.<BR>
 _____________________________________________________________________<BR>
     David L. Pulver -- Senior Staff Writer and Assistant Line Editor,<BR>
		     Guardians Of Order Incorporated<BR>
             dlpulver@kos.net  http://www.guardiansorder.on.ca<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:34:51 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: My new SF miniatures site is up!<BR>
<BR>
- --- Glenn Myers <glenn.myers@ansys.com> wrote:<BR>
> Hello fellow travellers,<BR>
> <BR>
> I've had an unexpected bit of luck in my<BR>
> photographing of miniatures. I have<BR>
> scanned the pictures and placed them on my web page.<BR>
> Check them out.<BR>
<BR>
Excellent stuff, Glenn! Permission to swipe these pics<BR>
and manipulate them a bit? My own photoshop skills are<BR>
not up to much, but I daresay I could cut out the<BR>
backgrounds and replace them with a<BR>
starfield/planet... Great for my campaign!<BR>
Failing that, we could just say they're pics of landed<BR>
craft, taken from a space satellite...<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:27:53 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Photosynthesis and alien ecology<BR>
<BR>
Jonathan wanted to know:<BR>
> Speaking of photosynthesis:<BR>
> The photosynthesis process requires chlorofil to be<BR>
> present for the <BR>
> convertion from carbon dioxide to oxygen. Does this<BR>
> mean that all plants on <BR>
> all Traveller planets with oxygen/carbon dioxide<BR>
> atmospheres are green. Or <BR>
> is it possible to substitute chlorofil for another<BR>
> substance and end up with <BR>
> blue/red/any colour plants that perform the same<BR>
> function?<BR>
<BR>
Kyle asked some friends in bilogy and they told him:<BR>
Well, we expect alien worlds to have alien<BR>
biochemistries, so make up what you like. In terms of<BR>
what already exists on earth, though, the human body,<BR>
for example, processes a small amount of sunlight, and<BR>
these compounds have no real colour. You could also<BR>
postulate a world with higher than earth levels of UV<BR>
radiation, so that plants must get a "tan", ie have a<BR>
protective coloured coating to stop the chlorophyll<BR>
being degraded. Additionally, photosynthesis may be<BR>
dominant here, but not on other worlds. Here on earth<BR>
in deep ocean trenches there are plants that survive<BR>
on heat (since no light can get there), called,<BR>
believe it or not, "thermosynthesis". Surely similar<BR>
plants could exist on the surface of a world? And<BR>
there's no colour restrictions.<BR>
For an interesting story of an alien ecology and some<BR>
earth colonists' interaction with it, see, Larry Niven<BR>
and Jerry Pournelle's, "The Legacy of Heorot." I<BR>
highly recommend it.<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:58:47 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: weapons and CRs<BR>
<BR>
Kiri wrote:<BR>
> But I myself was not permitted entry into an<BR>
> amusement park (Great<BR>
> America) until I walked all the way back to my<BR>
> then-husband's car with our<BR>
> keychains, removed the mini-knockoff Swiss Army<BR>
> knives, the longest blades<BR>
> upon which were 1.5" long, and locked them in the<BR>
> car.  A folding knife<BR>
> with a 1.5" blade was considered a weapon, despite<BR>
> the fact that it's<BR>
> really no good for anything other than cutting tape<BR>
> on boxes and slitting<BR>
> open envelopes, etc.<BR>
Well, this is what we call "Control rating 5" in the<BR>
GURPS worlds: "_Repressive_: There are many laws and<BR>
regulations, strictly enforced. Taxation is heavy and<BR>
often unfair. What civilian weapons are allowed are<BR>
strictly controlled and licenced and may not be<BR>
carried in public. There is strict regualtion of home<BR>
computers, photocopiers, broadcasters and other means<BR>
of information distribution and access."<BR>
Oh woops, I've been reading the proposed Internet<BR>
Regulation Act, and new Weapons Act... <BR>
1.5" of steel can kill, though. Two inches penetration<BR>
anywhere on the torso or neck will kill the person if<BR>
left untreated. For that matter, you can kill a perosn<BR>
with your thumb, just stick it in their eye and kind<BR>
of slush it around inside. However I doubt too many<BR>
people would have the stomach for that! <BR>
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people." But<BR>
there's much less sweat involved with guns!<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:05:27 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: technology advances<BR>
<BR>
- --- david.d.jaques-watson@centrelink.gov.au wrote:<BR>
> Dear Folks -<BR>
> <BR>
> Kyle wrote:<BR>
> >The Americans may have the<BR>
> >resources, but the Commonwealth has the brains!<BR>
> <BR>
> Dunno about that, when the Brits decided to drop our<BR>
> joint spaceflight program<BR>
> at Woomera, P.M. Menzies agreed on the grounds that<BR>
> we should only produce wool<BR>
> and wheat...<BR>
> <BR>
> Man - that annoys me! We were testing salvaged V2's<BR>
> and had advanced to<BR>
> producing "Blue Streak", then they came and broke<BR>
> them and the gantry's etc up<BR>
> for scrap. Oz could have been making a fortune on<BR>
> satellites by now.<BR>
> <BR>
Yeah, well, Menzies was a Control Rating 6 politician<BR>
in a Control Rating 2 country, he was a twerp. Guys<BR>
like him like to keep the nation dumb and illiterate.<BR>
<BR>
Anyway, it just proves my point: the Commonwealth has<BR>
always had the brains (I _didn't_ say, "brainy<BR>
politicians"!) the USA the resources. <BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:06:46 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Handouts<BR>
<BR>
- --- david.d.jaques-watson@centrelink.gov.au wrote:<BR>
> Dear Folks -<BR>
> <BR>
> Kyle said:<BR>
> >...you'll often find cds of sound effects,<BR>
> >everything from karate kicks to explosions to -<BR>
> well,<BR>
> >farts.<BR>
> >This sort of thing can really help set the mood.<BR>
> >Though what mood you'd be going for with the last<BR>
> >sound, I'm not sure...<BR>
> <BR>
> HePlaR?<BR>
<BR>
Does HePlaR produces smelly sulfides as a waste<BR>
exhaust? Yech, I wouldn't hang around to watch a<BR>
friend's ship balst off!<BR>
> <BR>
> - Hyphen<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:15:31 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
<BR>
- --- Jesse DeGraff the gun-toting maniac wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> Ditzie is apparently alive and well in Oregon =)  <BR>
> One of the girls at the<BR>
> shoot could be an older Ditzie, and she was having<BR>
> FUN, with a capital F  U<BR>
> N, shooting various firearms.  I'm referring to the<BR>
> one I named "Snow White"<BR>
> (never got her real name).  You'll really have to<BR>
> see the video when I get<BR>
> it captured for the full effect.  Stay tuned.<BR>
<BR>
Anyone else seen advertised "Babes With Guns"? It's a<BR>
video of bikini-clad lovelies firing at full-auto<BR>
somewhere in the California desert... funny thing to<BR>
get excited over, I would think, but an essential<BR>
handout for anyone GMing the magnificent rp game,<BR>
"macho women with guns".<BR>
<BR>
ObTrav: What constitutes porno in the 3I? Is there a<BR>
"Interstellar Enquirer"? If so, what kind of stories<BR>
does it have? I mean, today's story of "Woman gives<BR>
birth to alien carnivorous goat!" would make the<BR>
average traveller say, "yeah, so what?" <BR>
Is there a place for tabloid journalism in the 3I?<BR>
Loren, those nobles, do they get bothered by<BR>
paparazzi?<BR>
<BR>
Porno will always exist, I'm sure. IMTU, on a trading<BR>
station (rather like Babylon 5) there's a brothel<BR>
called "Exotica Erotica" where you can, um, "spend<BR>
time" with all sorts of alien types. We don't go into<BR>
details, but hey, "it was an experience", as they say.<BR>
<BR>
"Tell me you never touched the Bug, man," says one PC<BR>
to another.<BR>
<BR>
Hey, it gives flavour to the universe, don't flame me<BR>
too much!<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
"Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the universe together"<BR>
__________________________________________________<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:19:48 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Planet Las Vegas<BR>
<BR>
Seth wrote:<BR>
>   >><BR>
> Come to Las Vegas. The tourists do this all the<BR>
> time...:-). I wonder what the <BR>
> UPP of this mad house of a city would be? I REALLY<BR>
> should write up a <BR>
> Traveller adventure based on a Las Vegas type<BR>
> world...:-)<BR>
> <BR>
There's one IMTU. What else do you do if you're a<BR>
desert world with no resources? Legalise gambling and<BR>
put up glitzy hotels. The adventure? Well, there's a<BR>
Vilani family, "legitimate businessmen," from the<BR>
planet Corleone, they make the PCs an offer they can't<BR>
refuse...<BR>
Hey, corny can work, guys!<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
"Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the universe together"<BR>
__________________________________________________<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:14:44 -0500<BR>
From: "pould" <pould@netcom.ca><BR>
Subject: Re: Convention Alert!!!<BR>
<BR>
Is that the Toronto Con?  If this is the case, I was thinking of running a<BR>
game.  I haven't received the documentation for the con in Toronto (I think<BR>
it is in January).  Last year I ran a game at Orion (the other Toronto Con)<BR>
and I will do so again.<BR>
<BR>
Daniel Poulin<BR>
pould@netcom.ca<BR>
<BR>
- ----- Message d'origine -----<BR>
De : Boris Cibic <kafka47@hotmail.com><BR>
 : <traveller@mpgn.com><BR>
Envoy : 14 dcembre, 1999 02:10<BR>
Objet : Convention Alert!!!<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> Hi all!<BR>
>    Is anyone going to attend Pandemomium 2000?  If so would any like to<BR>
> start up a Traveller game there?<BR>
> Regards,<BR>
> Boris Cibic<BR>
> kafka47@hotmail.com<BR>
><BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:28:37 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Full auto Pilgramage Pics...and DITZIE?!?!<BR>
<BR>
- --- Antti Lahtinen <lahtinen@ee.tut.fi> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
Apparently you had much fun. I noticed that there<BR>
> is one major<BR>
> 	difference between the weapons used in Oregon and<BR>
> those we use<BR>
> 	in Finland. Because of local regulations are<BR>
> encouraged (not<BR>
> 	required yet) to use suppressors (because guns<BR>
> cause "noise<BR>
> 	pollution"). Currently all my guns (except a<BR>
> Benelli M3 shotgun)<BR>
> 	are suppressed.<BR>
<BR>
Finland, what a glorious nations, where the most<BR>
repressive gun laws are noise pollution laws! Wow! And<BR>
yet their murder rate is lower than California's? I<BR>
wonder why?<BR>
Come to think of it, hot nations tend to be more<BR>
violent than cold nations (Germany invaded Russia<BR>
during the _summer_, for example, not to mention the<BR>
Middle East)<BR>
Any theories on why? Maybe too much sun on their heads<BR>
makes peopel crazy? Or maybe in Finalnd and<BR>
Sqitzerland it's just too smegging cold to go out<BR>
murdering people....<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
"Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the universe together"<BR>
__________________________________________________<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:51:49 -0800<BR>
From: Jesse DeGraff <jdegraff@pacbell.net><BR>
Subject: RE: chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
<BR>
"Gun toting maniac"?  Why thank you!  I'm quite fond of America's 2nd<BR>
Amendment.<BR>
<BR>
For the record, I always thought that "Babes With Guns" video was pretty<BR>
silly.  They were PAID for that shoot, and it was absolutely silly that they<BR>
be wearing high heeled shoes.  As for the bikinis, well, if it's hot out<BR>
they can wear whatever they want ;)  Seriously, as I said it was pretty<BR>
silly.  No woman shooter I ever met, and I've met a few, would ever do such<BR>
a thing.<BR>
<BR>
The two girls that really enjoyed themselves were NOT paid for shooting, and<BR>
actually had to pay to shoot like everyone else.  I always enjoy seeing<BR>
someone new to shooting sports, MALE OR FEMALE, enjoy themselves and get<BR>
over the media induced anti-gun hype.  [Oops, kinda' slipped onto my soapbox<BR>
for a second there!]<BR>
<BR>
See ya'!<BR>
Jesse<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- -----Original Message-----<BR>
From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com<BR>
[mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of Kyle Schuant<BR>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 6:16 PM<BR>
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com<BR>
Subject: chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- --- Jesse DeGraff the gun-toting maniac wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> Ditzie is apparently alive and well in Oregon =)<BR>
> One of the girls at the<BR>
> shoot could be an older Ditzie, and she was having<BR>
> FUN, with a capital F  U<BR>
> N, shooting various firearms.  I'm referring to the<BR>
> one I named "Snow White"<BR>
> (never got her real name).  You'll really have to<BR>
> see the video when I get<BR>
> it captured for the full effect.  Stay tuned.<BR>
<BR>
Anyone else seen advertised "Babes With Guns"? It's a<BR>
video of bikini-clad lovelies firing at full-auto<BR>
somewhere in the California desert... funny thing to<BR>
get excited over, I would think, but an essential<BR>
handout for anyone GMing the magnificent rp game,<BR>
"macho women with guns".<BR>
<BR>
ObTrav: What constitutes porno in the 3I? Is there a<BR>
"Interstellar Enquirer"? If so, what kind of stories<BR>
does it have? I mean, today's story of "Woman gives<BR>
birth to alien carnivorous goat!" would make the<BR>
average traveller say, "yeah, so what?"<BR>
Is there a place for tabloid journalism in the 3I?<BR>
Loren, those nobles, do they get bothered by<BR>
paparazzi?<BR>
<BR>
Porno will always exist, I'm sure. IMTU, on a trading<BR>
station (rather like Babylon 5) there's a brothel<BR>
called "Exotica Erotica" where you can, um, "spend<BR>
time" with all sorts of alien types. We don't go into<BR>
details, but hey, "it was an experience", as they say.<BR>
<BR>
"Tell me you never touched the Bug, man," says one PC<BR>
to another.<BR>
<BR>
Hey, it gives flavour to the universe, don't flame me<BR>
too much!<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int,<BR>
Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
"Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds<BR>
the universe together"<BR>
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:45:17 +1100<BR>
From: "Hughes, Michael" <Michael.Hughes@cbr.defence.gov.au><BR>
Subject: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Australia - Orbital badness<BR>
<BR>
From:	Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu<BR>
<mailto:johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> ><BR>
Subject:	Re: Australia under orbital bombardment<BR>
<BR>
Hah! According to something my wife saw, some old geezer in the town was<BR>
demanding compensation from the town for the inconvenience of having his<BR>
water turned off and consequently having to drink beer for the<BR>
duration....<BR>
<BR>
Any truth to this?<BR>
Walter Smith wrote:<BR>
<BR>
Me:<BR>
<BR>
I lived 25 minutes from said town most of my life. All I can say is <BR>
<BR>
'Holy dueling Banjo's Batman'.<BR>
<BR>
I would so not be surprised if this was true. <BR>
<BR>
Claim to fame (pre meteor)<BR>
<BR>
'Guyra; Home to the highest altitude caravan park in Australia'<BR>
<BR>
Shudder.<BR>
<BR>
Dang a dang dang dang dang dang etc.<BR>
<BR>
Ob Trav: In the Spinward Marches, is there a system that the rest of the<BR>
sector regards as a genetic joke?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Michael <BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:02:23 -0800<BR>
From: Jesse DeGraff <jdegraff@pacbell.net><BR>
Subject: RE: Paintball and morality<BR>
<BR>
LOL!  Stocks?  What're those?  =)<BR>
<BR>
After the hectic craziness of the Bay Area, it's nice to go up and visit<BR>
areas where a traffic jam means you're delayed 5 minutes.  It once took me 2<BR>
hours to go the 5 miles to work!  How I wish I'd ridden my bike that day.<BR>
Of course, I used to ride my bike to work fairly often, but got tired of<BR>
nearly being run over a minimum of twice a week.  >sigh<<BR>
<BR>
Oh well.  Back to my work on "Navy".<BR>
<BR>
Later,<BR>
Jesse<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- -----Original Message-----<BR>
From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com<BR>
[mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com]On Behalf Of Glenn M.<BR>
Goffin<BR>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1982 12:13 AM<BR>
To: traveller@mpgn.com<BR>
Subject: RE: Paintball and morality<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> From: Jesse DeGraff <jdegraff@pacbell.net><BR>
<BR>
> Oh, what a soapbox opportunity, but I shall refrain =)   If only I could<BR>
> win the PRK's (People's Republic of Kalifornia) State Lottery and get the<BR>
hell<BR>
> out of here ;)<BR>
<BR>
Surely you're getting some compensation in stock and stock options.<BR>
That should lead to a windfall and escape potential fairly soon.  As<BR>
much as I like you, Jesse, I always encourage anyone who wants to to<BR>
leave the Bay Area, because that's one fewer person competing with me<BR>
for local resources.  By the way, what's your housing situation like? Is<BR>
it something I might be interested in when you go?<BR>
<BR>
Ob Traveller:<BR>
The original character generation systems (at least) mentioned feelings<BR>
about one's prior service, depending on how the generation system had<BR>
gone, as a part of character development.  If the prior service did not<BR>
involve a lot of travel, feelings about a particular place would also be<BR>
an important part of role-playing a character.  ("Chirpers!  why did it<BR>
have to be chirpers? I hate chirpers.  I thought I'd never see a chirper<BR>
after I left Vanejen."  "Man, I hate being out here in the boondocks.<BR>
Rhylanor is just so primitive after you've lived on Mora for a while.")<BR>
<BR>
- --Glenn<BR>
<BR>
P.S.  Great pictures from your visit to Mark Cook's place!<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:09:57 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: RE: chicks with guns, and 3I porno<BR>
<BR>
- --- Jesse DeGraff <jdegraff@pacbell.net> wrote:<BR>
> "Gun toting maniac"?  Why thank you!  I'm quite fond<BR>
> of America's 2nd<BR>
> Amendment.<BR>
Hehe, who said "gun toting maniac" was an insult? I<BR>
was in the army, myself, always enjoyed carrying the<BR>
M-60. A fellow gunner said, "they say the average life<BR>
of a machine-gunnere in combat is - what? 40 seconds?<BR>
- - but so what? it's 40 seconds of glory!"<BR>
 <BR>
> For the record, I always thought that "Babes With<BR>
> Guns" video was pretty<BR>
> silly.  <BR>
Never saw it, myself, just saw the adverts. But as I<BR>
said, really it was just a thought-provoking thing,<BR>
what will be porno and tabloid in the 3I? What will<BR>
turn them on, make them laugh, shock them into saying,<BR>
"they shouldn't show that on holovision"?<BR>
<BR>
> [Oops, kinda'<BR>
> slipped onto my soapbox<BR>
> for a second there!]<BR>
That's the whole democracy-type thing of the internet:<BR>
a chance for any Joe Shmoe to soap-box!:)<BR>
<BR>
Always wondered, though, if Jefferson would've written<BR>
the 2nd Amendment if there'd been around AK-47s<BR>
instead of just muskets that took a minute or two to<BR>
load and were lucky to hit a man at a hundred yards!<BR>
Anywya, are you sure that "the right to bear amrs, the<BR>
right to form state militias, shall not be infringed",<BR>
doesn't mean, "the right to bear arms, _that is_, the<BR>
right to form state militias, shall not be infringed"?<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:17:19 -0800 (PST)<BR>
From: Kyle Schuant <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
Subject: Dueling Banjos in the 3I<BR>
<BR>
Michael wrote:<BR>
> Ob Trav: In the Spinward Marches, is there a system<BR>
> that the rest of the<BR>
> sector regards as a genetic joke?<BR>
<BR>
There must be heaps. All those colony worlds. In<BR>
GURPS: Space, a resource rich planet will have its<BR>
population increase by a factor of 10 every ten years.<BR>
If there's no extra immigration after the first lot,<BR>
there's going to be an awful lot of kissin' cousins...<BR>
In a Harry Harrison book there was mentioned a fellow<BR>
that was so egotistical, he wanted a whole planet of<BR>
his own children, so he spent years collecting nubile<BR>
young women, some voluntary, some not, and taking them<BR>
to his own planet, impregnating them along the way...<BR>
(good thing for male Survey PCs to do in their<BR>
retirement? or even females with TL 10 artificial<BR>
wombs)<BR>
<BR>
Ob Trav:<BR>
the PCs go on holiday, down a nice slow old river in<BR>
the hills, and meet the friendly locals... Would I be<BR>
cruel enough to run "Deliverance"? of course not!:)<BR>
<BR>
{heehee)<BR>
<BR>
=====<BR>
KA Schuant<BR>
member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int, Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
Melbourne<BR>
Australia<BR>
<BR>
"Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the universe together"<BR>
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